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Prince George's County Citizens Group Opposes Immigration Bill

House Bill 470 would allow undocumented immigrants tuition breaks.

 

A citizens group in Prince George’s County is urging the County Council to oppose a state bill that would grant in-state tuition rights at public colleges and universities to illegal immigrants, saying it would cause county residents economic hardship.

During a County Council meeting today, council members introduced a resolution to either oppose or endorse House Bill 470, which would provide undocumented immigrants access to public higher education at in-state or in-county tuition rates.

The bill would require applicants to public colleges and universities in Maryland to be students at public high schools in the state for three consecutive years before applying for in-state rates. Undocumented immigrants currently pay an out-of-state tuition fee, which in 2011 averages $10,000 more per year than in-state tuition.

But members of People for Change, a citizen’s advocacy group for Prince George’s County, urged council members not to support the bill, saying it is unfair and would take money from county services. Some said the council could risk a lawsuit because the bill goes against federal law.

 “If you take money from this bag, you’re taking money from the mouths of people you represent in your contingency,” Raymond Hawkins of Cheverly told the council. “There are thousands of us who are outraged by this…. Don’t you allow the County Council members to become a part of the travesty of justice. Who’s speaking on behalf of the citizens?” he asked.

The bill mirrors legislation put forth by the Obama administration. The federal Dream Act gives in-state tuition status to eligible students who are illegal immigrants. Locally, the County Council would decide whether or not to support the legislation before a decision is reached by the Maryland General Assembly and Senate in Annapolis.

Residents said the bill would be a slap in the face to taxpayers already seeing rolling budget deficits in state and county government.

“Why are we supporting this? Does anyone know how much money this is going to cost?” asked Jerry McLaurin, a leader of People for Change. “We want this [bill] to stop.”

Anthony Cicoria of Hyattsville told the council that as the son of Italian immigrants, he believed the bill favored a specific group of people. Citizens, he said, shouldn’t be responsible for the education of non-citizens.

“You’re going to have to look at the economics,” he said. “You’ll put an extra burden economically on the backs of [citizens in] Prince George’s County.”

The resolution still has to make its way to a committee vote before being voted on by the County Council as a whole, said Council Chairwoman Ingrid Turner (D-Dist. 4) of Bowie.

“I think it’s always important to have an open dialogue [with residents],” she said.  “We don’t vote the way we want to, we vote they way [residents] want us to.”

steve

8:10 am on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

When did we lose our common sense? Our Government, has allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. they force American tax payers to pay Billions to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders children, free medical care,massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE!
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.immigrationshumancost.org/
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.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ
http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=41045
http://www.cairco.org/econ/econ.html
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/003335.html
obama and holder should be IMPEACHED! for not upholding the oath of office they swore to defend the Constitution! If these clowns were to do their job, this would all be a Moot point!
Anchors and their criminal parents go, period, and cut the tears, you knew you were breaking the law when you crossed the border.

Next shut down any business hiring illegal labor. Oh and owners go to jail.
Got a better idea? Lets hear it!

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Linda V.

9:14 am on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

People for Change does not speak for the people of Prince George's County.

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Rick Hudson

2:05 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

They are more then welcome to speak for me on this.

During the election Gov. O'Malley called undocumented immigrants, or more appropriately illegal aliens, "New Americans" to which Erhlich responded "under that rational I guess Gov. O'Malley would refer to a buglar in his home as a new family member." This is a very apt anology. These people have broken the law by being here and shoud not be rewarded with in-state tuition rates, free public education or any other govt.funded program. They should be deported per the law of land.

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Donald James

2:42 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

This bill is not for people who have jumped the border last week and are now trying to get some education. Most of these kids have grown up here and it's all they know. Yeah their parents may have made a choice to come here illegally, but the kids had no say in this decision. They've already grown up in and are apart of our society. May as well give them a shot at education so that they can be productive parts of the society, as well as give them a path to actually being a citizen.

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Amilio Rodriguez

5:27 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

They do however, on this issue, represent the interests of the majority of documented U.S. Citizens. I am sick and tired of seeing my tax dollar support these criminals. It is a dereliction of duty for any elected official to support this bill in light of everything that is happening at our borders and with our budgets. This goes to show how extremely out of touch the elected officials in Maryland and Prince Georges County are with the tax paying CITIZENS! In addition, this is an example of the kind of b.s. that is brought upon us when one lives in a sate and county with a one party system.

US Citizen

2:22 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

As a resident of Prince George's County, I do not want my tax dollars spent in support of illigal activities. This includes programs that are geared toward those individuals and their children who are in this country illegally.

Illigal immigrants break the laws that govern the United States of America when they cross the border. I am very, very tired of seeing them rewarded for this behavior.

Now they and their supportors express outrage when legal citizens insist that these laws are enforced.

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DANIEL DIAZ

2:36 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

EDUCATION IS A BENEFIT TO EVERYONE.IT SHOULD BE SEEN AS ON
INVESTMENT;DO YOU CARE IF YOUR DOCTOR IS FROM CHINA INDIA
OR MEXICO. HOW CAN YOU PROGRESS WHEN YOU ARE CLOSING EDUCATION
TO THE MOST INTELLIGENT.GIVE THE LAND BACK TO THE INDIANS .

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Linda V.

3:05 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Educated people are a benefit to our society. Instead of trying to keep good people from getting an education, lets spend our energy fixing problems like the tax breaks that reward commercial property owners for keeping stores empty, people who barrel through stop signs in my neighborhood, the Wall Street scammers and banks who never got punished for destroying our economy and who are in fact giving themselves million dollar bonuses again.

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Amilio Rodriguez

5:53 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

1. Linda, the people who barrel through stop signs in your neighborhood are your neighbors. Try starting there before seeking the mobilization of a tax payer funded task force to ensure everyone comes to a full 3 second stop on your precious little street.
2. These “good people” as you describe them are here illegally. They are not Good People. Don’t believe me? Then try speaking with a border patrol agent, or the family of a murdered border patrol agent (Hero) and see if that conversation doesn’t change the colors of the rainbow world you seem to live in. They sneak across our border with guns, drugs, prostitutes, and threats to our national security, yet you wish to reward them with my tax dollars – incentivizing these crooks to come to Maryland and PG County. How is it you fail to see that this is a recipe for disaster?
3. You blame Wall Street for destroying our economy? Perhaps in part, but equal blame should be directed to these same illegal aliens (and others) who were able to get mortgages on $400K homes that they couldn’t afford. Name me a single bank that held a gun to their heads as they signed the mortgage papers? Mortgage papers that they undoubtedly lied upon.

Emil Farkwarp

3:50 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Keep in mind that the people that you refer to as "anchor babies" are AMERICAN CITIZENS and enjoy all the rights that come with citizenship.

Federal law requires children under age 16 to be in school. There is no execption for your legal status.

Most folks didn't have any problem with Jim Crow laws; it took vision and an understanding that the old way was the wrong way. Fortunately we have similar visionaries nowadays.

Cutting off access to certain programs creates an underclass. How nice that you support that!

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Rick Hudson

5:00 pm on Wednesday, March 16, 2011

In find it kind of amusing that everyone wants to enforce FEDERAL laws on the businesses, banks and even US citizens (if your neighbor was selling illegal guns to drug dealers or selling baby seal pelts from Alaska no one would question that they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law), but we are willing to overlook those same FEDERAL LAWS or make huge exceptions to them for illegal immigrants.

Many will ague that these people are just trying to make a better life for themselves and their families, but I bet Bernie Madoff (Spelling ???) would say he was just trying to make a better life for himself and his family. No one seems to mind him going to jail for the rest of his life. So really a illegal immigrant is no better of a person then Bernie Madoff, Martha Stewart, or Joe Blow crack dealer on the street corner.

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Emil Farkwarp

12:55 pm on Friday, March 18, 2011

Wow, a hard-working laborer who comes to the US any way he can in order to survive and you compare him to that pubic louse Madoff, a crack dealer, a gun runner and one of those weirdos that get jollies from owning or collecting seal pelts? Such conflations are a desperate attempt to try to paint such folks as evil. They are not.

As for a comparison to Martha Stewart, I am hiopeful that no immigrants are anything like her or I will drive them out of Westport (CT) myself... y'know, once they finish the yardwork.

Mark Maier

8:47 pm on Thursday, March 17, 2011

@ Rick...I respectfully disagree. We are blaming the victim by not letting kids who came here without the permission of the US government go to school. I guess you do not understand our immigration system used to keep track of 60 million people a year by hand until Jimmy Carter became President. That is the first time INS (now known as USCIS and ICE) used computers. The Commissioner of Immigration used to tell the US Congress not to give the agency more money. Can you imagine? First of all entry into the United States without a visa is NOT A CRIME! Deportation is a Civil matter, not criminal. That is why people who go before an immigration judge do not get automatically get a lawyer. Bernie did as do EVERY CRIMINAL DEFENDANT. The kids who come here as babies grow up not learning their native language, but they ALL SPEAK ENGLISH, and they never have lived in their home country. BTW, this means people from other cultures, not just Latinos. If the get sent back they will not be able to acculturate because their country is a foreign land to them. We need people who can fight and die for our country, who can pay taxes and support our values. These kids do. Why not give them a chance, the congress did for your great grand parents and look how you turned out. . .

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Mark Maier

9:02 pm on Thursday, March 17, 2011

@ Aurelio...blaming undocumented workers for causing the mortgage crisis...They were swindled by the lenders. How do I know? That is one reason why I gave up my license. Many of these recent immigrants were defrauded, and not just by native borns either. They were not, in most cases, ripping off the system. The Agents, the Lenders, Settlement Agents and originators were all in on it.
I walked away from a 21k commission because I knew a recent immigrant family who asked me to sell their house could not afford the McMansion the builder was trying to foist on them. Look at the people the FBI has gone after for fraud, did recent immigrants own Countrywide??
The border patrol agent was killed by Mexican Drug Dealers, not by the peasents who are murdered, raped and robbed by the Mexican police and drug dealers. They are the people whose children want a chance at the American Dream. The drugs come north but the guns go to Mexico. Did you know there is only ONE LEGAL GUN SHOP IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY OF MEXICO AND YOU NEED POLICE PERMISSION EVEN TO GO INSIDE? And the guns all come from here, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico all contribute to the violence by allowing illegal gun sales. The US Gov. just arrested a mayor and police chief from New Mexico for gun running. The kids who have grown up here are the ones asking for help, they are not criminals, Don't paint everyone with the same broad brush

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enid gonzalez aleman

11:35 am on Friday, March 18, 2011

This is not for people who just got here! The bill requires beneficiaries to have gone to Maryland high schools and completed 2 years of community college in the state! Youth who achieve this despite incredible barriers: poverty, dangerous neighborhoods, families broken my immigration barriers; prejudice and on... first of all are just a handful--so their education will not cost that much and second, SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED! Do we really want all the low-income children of the people who perform our hard jobs to have no dreams? no one to look-up to? Do we want the only place where they can gain admittance to be gangs?.. How much will THAT cost us?

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Rick Hudson

11:36 am on Friday, March 18, 2011

@ Mark- this My great grandparents immigrated here legally at great personal expense and risk. The people we are talking about are not obeying our laws and put themselves at great risk being here illegally. This sucks for the kids that are here by no fault of their own, but their parents are using them as pawns in this game more so then anyone else.

Personally I do not care if it is a civil or criminal law, they are here illegally. They should be treated as the criminals and deported accordingly.

A lot of people will say that it is unfair to punish the children for the sins of the parents. But maybe if the parents took that risk into account, they would stay in their country and never put their kids in that horrible situation. I know I wouldn't put my kids at that kind of risk. As far as their rights in this country goes I quote from a CNN article today that the federal govt asserts-"neither the American Declaration of the Rights and Duties of Man nor international law generally establish a presumption of liberty for undocumented migrants who are present in a country in violation of that country’s immigration laws."

I find it amusing that these people wish to be covered and protected by our laws and Constitution when they show complete disdain and disregard for both by coming here illegally.

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ProYouth

12:32 pm on Friday, March 18, 2011

The other day I read something that broke my heart. In the state of Texas every four minutes a student drops out of High School. As a society what do we want for our youth? To be on the streets, or no working at fast food restaurant, in prison...Society limits their choices. Immigration issues are going to take time to be resolved. Our leaders need time to find better policies. In the meantime there are youth waiting. At this point they are waiting for an opportunity to learn. Let's not waste this opportunity. A would rather have a youth in college than on the streets or in prison. Youth regardless of where they are from need Society to believe in them and to give them opportunities in order to be successful as individuals and as society members.

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Rick Hudson

1:23 pm on Friday, March 18, 2011

All I am saying is in regards to this bill we should not reward their parents criminal behavior by giving them a break on tuition. They are not in state residents, they are in state illegal aliens and do not deserve any benefit above a US citzen or legal alien from NJ or PA.

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Clare Cherkasky

3:15 pm on Friday, March 18, 2011

I agree with the comment that education is an investment, not simply a "benefit." What is the "benefit" to having uneducated people living in our community who really would like to study further so they can help the society at large.

Clare Cherkasky

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Rick Hudson

4:20 pm on Wednesday, March 30, 2011

What "benefit" is having people who are williing to break our laws for years and years on end in the comunity?

SF

3:26 pm on Friday, March 18, 2011

count me among those who value the contributions to my community of recent immigrants. I think that we are all better off from their efforts.

I support equal access to education for all of my neighbors.

Use whatever hateful and divisive language you want, it isn't going to sway me to side against my neighbors.

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Dennis

5:50 pm on Friday, March 18, 2011

I agree with Anthony Cicoria of Hyattsville when he said, "Citizens shouldn’t be responsible for the education of non-citizens." Also, what part of ILLEGAL don't people understand?

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pissy pants

2:30 pm on Sunday, March 20, 2011

Well, I suppose next all the college classes will be taught in Spanish and everyone who already lives in American will be forced to learn Spanish to accommodate ILLEGAL immigrants.

So, what rights does citizenship grant us? Absolutely NONE. We're nothing but SLAVES to be taxed for whatever social programs the Democrats want to start. They just want to buy votes, but it's the CITIZENS who get the shaft.

Come here legally, play by the same rules and follow the same laws everyone else does, and I have no problem with you going to college. But force me to pay your way and you've just made an enemy.
But that's what the Democrats want -- just look at how they turn everything into rich vs. poor, white vs. black, etc. Class warfare; "hate the rich," and if you're white and you don't agree with something that someone who belongs to a different ethnic class says then you're a bigot. I'm sick and tired of this racial shit. I grew up in Piggy county and spent more years of school being beaten up for being white than I spent learning anything. All the politicians want to do is foment hatred.

And they accomplish that by playing games and playing favorites so they can get votes. We need to get these people out of office before it gets ugly. And no one will be to blame except the politicians.

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Ed

8:57 am on Wednesday, March 30, 2011

I dont really care about the timeframes indicated in the bill. The fact is that 'illegal immigrants' are in fact, illegally here. Tax payers can not afford to subsidize our neighbors who are willingly violating the law. I am not opposed to any group or person entering this country, as long as it is done legally. It is about time that the tax payers of this county stand up and say enough is enough. We need to stop supporting illegal practices, whether that be taking bribes while in office or illegally entering our country.

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Rick Hudson

4:18 pm on Wednesday, March 30, 2011

It is not bigotry... it is a desire to not have our taxes used to support illegal immigrants. I am quite sure very few people have any problem with legal, documented and controlled immigration. Most of us are from families that were immigrants some time in the last 250 years. We just want the laws enforced and not to give added benefits to those who break the law.

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Linda V.

9:34 pm on Wednesday, March 30, 2011

It's easy to pick on people who have no power.

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